Summary: We are called to be ’disciples’ of Jesus Christ. Often that is the better term to use than ’Christians’, which lets us off the hook too easily, nowadays!). Disciples are disciplined by God and disciplined for God (practice ’the disciplines of the Christ
Moving on with God- the next step in: discipleship
WBC 6 July 2003 pm
LK 9:23 Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. 24 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. 25 What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self? 26
LK 14:25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple. 27 And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
Are you a Christian?
My dream. At conference. Bomb threat. The hosting church were real raving charismatics. I sat outside to check no one was entering to plant a bomb. 2 workmen turn up in a van. I stop them and ask "who are you going to see?". "Gillian" they answer. They get stroppy for being stopped, because they’re Christians. "well, I’m sorry, there has been a bomb threat, so I’m sure you’ll excuse me for checking you are who you say you are- Christians going to see Gillian" "can you quote Jn3:16 to me?" "oh, it’s something like ... the Father loves Jesus ..." both spout different jumbled stuff and then say ’it’s a long time since we became Christians.... & you just know what you know in HERE (pointing to heart). I said "I’ll have to escort you to see Gillian, and she’ll have to verify who you are.... I’m sorry, but most NON-Christians would know this passage... and you don’t" I then added to the dream, in my dream mind "If you were tried for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?
Maybe asking people if they are Christians or not is too easy
- over 65% of our country classify themselves as ‘Christian’ when asked
o because the term has become part of our culture, terminology
“= someone born in the UK” (you say)
• and you’d be right!
o But has also, wrongly, become part of our church terminology
You’re a Christian if you ‘nod your head’, ‘get baptised’, ‘go to church regularly’, ‘believe in Jesus’
And, of course some of this is true
- but we misunderstand the term, and in doing so
o cripple ourselves. Short change our master and starve our souls
o let ourselves off far to easily
Because the term ‘Christian’ is seldom used in the Bible
- and where it’s used is used to describe the ‘final product’
AC 11:25 Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, 26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
- and it’s used by OTHERS to describe Christians- they don’t use it of themselves (as they know they’re not finished, yet!)
- In ’Living faith’ Jimmy Carter writes: A group of Christian laymen involved in missionary work approached a small village near an Amish settlement. Seeking a possible convert, they confronted an Amish farmer and asked him, ’Brother, are you a Christian?’ The Farmer thought for a moment and then said " Wait just a few minutes." He wrote down a list of names on a tablet and handed it to the lay evangelist. "Here is a list of people who know me best. Please ask them if I am a Christian."